“I challenge that people can just be people-pleasers. Nah, you were trained to do that.” – Nicole Trick Steinbach  

Anne Deeter Gallaher & Anne Carnathan hosted me on their fantastic podcast, Grit & Gravitas, to talk about bravery, accountability, and keeping humor and humility with our excellence and brilliance.

We dive into what bravery really is and when it is a necessary skill for growth and success, particularly during times of failure. We all challenged each others’ assumptions and ways of describing ideas and concepts. This is a senior-level conversation between three change-makers.

Listen to the full episode: Grit & Gravitas: Brave & Bold 

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